Showing posts with label Misinformation About Pentagon. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Misinformation About Pentagon. Show all posts

The Professional 9/11 Debunker and Paid Internet Troll Playbook


My fellow Truthers continue to waste their time arguing with with Trolls about 9/11. Educating the ignorant is one thing, but ignorance is not the problem with those who are paid to disrupt and/or infiltrate the 9/11 Truth Movement.



FYI, the Pentagon has a $27 Billion per year PR [aka Propaganda] budget just to spread disinformation about 9/11. But not all Trolls are paid - some do it "just for fun."




The following are some random Troll Commets.

See if you can spot a pattern. These comments were all made after a serious presentation of factual evidence:

"9/11 truthers: They never miss a chance to proclaim their insanity."

" I don't take the tin foil hat crowed seriously and cannot take anyone seriously who does, be it the 9/11 Truthers or the Birthers off on the right."

"...you guys use any chance you can to peddle your stale nonsense, but of those measly "1254 architectural and engineering professionals" you mention, only a handful have any real experience and/or expertise in the subject of tall buildings, which has been pointed out again and again, and one reason why most people simply laugh at you guys. You are a hoot!"

And here's another - slightly more sophisticated - guy who signs his name "Albury." We can probably assume that it is the infamous "Albury Smith" who spends a lot of his time spreading misinformation and disinformation.

If you are reading a lot and seek the Truth of 9/11 you will spot his work (and many others) all over the Internet.


He tries to muddy the waters with doubletalk and bogus science to confuse and/or convince those who may be looking into this subject for the first time and haven't thoroughly examined the evidence. I have included his entire remarks on a recent blog post here:

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "ACTION ALERT: Vote Now and Tell the World that 9/1...":

I think we should investigate Richard Gage, not the WTC collapses, which have already been investigated by much more qualified, competent, and honest people. The NIST engineers were only able to time the top 18 stories, or 242', of the collapse of WTC 7's facade, and determined that it took 5.4 seconds, yet he claims that the entire 610' collapse only took ~6.5 seconds. Did the other 368' fall in just over 1 second? How is he even able to give us a time for the entire visible portion of the collapse when NIST couldn't because buildings in the foreground blocked the view of video cameras?
How could the towers have free fallen when the loose, airborne debris from their upper stories was falling so much faster than the collapse zones, and began hitting the ground while at least 40 stories in each were still intact? Was g increased on 9/11? They fell in ~15 and ~22 seconds respectively, nowhere near the ~9.25 seconds free fall would have taken:

http://www.youtube.com/user/RKOwens4#p/u/40/qLShZOvxVe4

yet he begins every presentation with his near free-fall claim. He's also claimed that the dust clouds from the collapses were pyroclastic, but there are no reports of anyone's skin being instantly peeled off, and he's claimed that the fires in WTC 7 were minor, totally contradicting these NYC eyewitnesses:

http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/eyewitnessaccountsofwtc7fires
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/accountsofwtc7damage
http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/eyewitnessaccountsofthewithdrawalfromwtc

How could his claim that 400,000 yards of concrete were turned to fine powder be true, when there was <100,000>
Has he ever seen a controlled demolition that left molten metal in the debris for months? Has he ever seen one that didn't leave even one explosively-cut column in the debris? Since he claims that explosives were planted in the core columns to start the collapses, and that it was done from elevators shafts, has he ever looked a floor plan of the cores above the 78th floor sky lobby? There were only 6 regular elevators above there, plus a freight and 2 express elevators, and they were only near 6 of the 47 core columns. Several of those were in the paths of the planes, and the perimeter columns collapsed first, so his "theory" doesn't even make sense, especially considering the fact that 30 or more stories of core framing stood 15-25 seconds after each tower's main collapse was over.
We should investigate Richard Gage, as well as his "engineers."

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3834688&postcount=12

(Signed) Albury

Here's a good place to Troll Watch if you're inclined:




ALERT: Infiltration at 911Blogger and TruthAction has Compromised These Websites


TO: All Truth Movement Members,


I have a very important message for your attention today concerning our movement and an attempt to bring it down.

Barry Zwicker, author of Towers Of Deception and producer of numerous outstanding and informative 9/11 truth videos and articles weighs in on the compelling Pentagon evidence presented by the Citizens Investigation Team (CIT) and he addresses the controversy in some circles of the 9/11 truth movement about this vital evidence.

For over two years now CIT has been struggling to get their evidence recognized by the larger truth community only to have run into staunch resistance and a concerted disinformation campaign from a few (mainly the owners of 911Blogger and Truthaction) in the truth movement.

911Blogger has recently purged (Stalin style) a large number of truthers from it's blog simply for vocally supporting CIT's work.

They have also mass deleted numerous comments supportive of CIT from discussion threads about this issue so that now a completely false impression has been created about the support and strength of this evidence and a false impression has been created about the true numbers of the opposition which are in reality very small.

Any truth site engaging in mass purges and essentially engaging in book burning should give all in the truth movement serious concern.


Mr. Zwicker explains his reasons for CIT in this video and talks about the shadowy disinformation effort going on to suppress it. Thank you Barry!

For anyone unfamiliar with CIT's evidence consider viewing their presentation called National Security Alert to be vitally important for your ongoing education about the 9/11 false flag attack.

Also voicing your opposition to 911Blogger and Truthaction directly about their extreme suppression and disinformation tactics would be appreciated.

Please watch Barry's report at the link below and get involved taking on those who spread disinformation and misinformation within our movement.

Barrie Zwicker endorses Citizen Investigation Team's presentation "National Security Alert."

Sincerely,
Adam Ruff



FROM BARRIE ZWICKER:

"It's no exaggeration to state that the findings of the Citizen Investigation Team concerning what really happened at the Pentagon on 9/11 are reliable, undeniable, conclusive, and of immense historical importance.

The evidence now shows, well past reasonable doubt, what happened: it was a detonation of explosives within the building, timed to coincide with a flyover by a large jet plane, thus producing the clever illusion that Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon, and that is the heart of the official 9/11 Pentagon lie.

Primary credit for dispelling this illusion must go to CIT. The team members, with only truth-seeking as their motive, and with few resources, succeeded in finding 13 eyewitnesses, whom they interviewed fairly and transparently.

The heavy convergence of honest reports by these eyewitnesses, and other compelling evidence, can be seen in CIT's highly revealing DVD "National Security Alert." The evidence fails entirely to support the official story's alleged flight path of alleged Flight 77. The evidence does, on the all-important other hand, support a flyover flight path.

To add insult to insult, the same perpetrators of the events of 9/11 at the Pentagon have assigned disinformation specialists to attack the honest citizen detectives of CIT. This suggests, to me at least, that hidden behind and within the dark and treasonous false flag deception carried out at the Pentagon on 9/11 are probably even darker secrets.

To me, two most important questions now, almost nine years after the events, urgently call out for investigation. First, who are those behind the vicious attempts to discredit the work of the Citizen Investigation Team? Second, what are the motives of the would-be discreditors and those behind them? And I say "attempts" - because careful examination of the arguments of CIT's tormentors show them to be tricky and unreliable - in fact as flimsy as the official story they try to defend.

So, twin tasks lie ahead for honest citizens of all countries. First, to continue to learn more about all the events of 9/11, and the false flag operation of 9/11. Second, to learn more about -- and unmask for all to see who are willing to see -- the cadre of disinformation agents who are in the business of attempting to mislead and confuse honest authentic people everywhere about 9/11. Arguably, no single group is being targeted more toxically than the honest citizen detectives of CIT. This is a signal tribute to the historic importance of CIT's work -- work that must be supported unflaggingly.

-- Barrie Zwicker, author, Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-Up of 9/11 and producer of The Great Conspiracy: The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw.